Attero Tech and Stewart Audio show Ethernet AVB Endpoints at InfoComm 2012 in Vegas

March 30th, 2012 by Mike Sims

Even though it’s only March, InfoComm is just around the corner.  Attero Tech, and our good friends at Stewart Audio, will be showing a number of great new networked AV products based on CobraNet and CobraNet LE technology (InfoComm Booths C11939 and C11941).  We’ll also be demonstrating versions of our respective products that support Ethernet AVB.  Attero Tech will be showing its InBox and OutBox in-wall network interfaces with AVB, and Stewart will show an AVB version of its CVA100-2 two channel power amplifier.  They’ll even be talking to one another – interoperability at its finest!  In addition, Attero Design (Attero Tech’s design services arm) will show the AVB2224, a 2in x 2out low-cost Ethernet AVB connectivity module.

Although IEEE 1722.1 is not yet complete, and an AVB interoperability certification program isn’t quite operational, both are getting closer.  Attero Tech and Stewart Audio are committed to providing the most affordable gear for networked AV systems, and we’ll always be out front providing whatever audio networking protocols the market demands.  Whether it’s CobraNet, Ethernet AVB, or the next big thing – we’ll be there.

Attero Tech Website Update

October 27th, 2011 by Mike Sims

Just a quick note to talk about Attero Tech’s web site update.  Since Attero Tech started up 6 years ago, we’ve had two components to our business.  One component is the networked AV products we design, manufacture, and sell, and the other is design services we provide to a variety of OEMs in the commercial and residential AV markets.

Over time, it’s become clear that one website simply cannot serve both aspects of Attero Tech’s business.  We’ve decided to split the web site into two sites.  www.atterotech.com will now be completely dedicated to Attero Tech Install AV products.  Some of the upgrades to the site include:

  • Easier navigation to find the information you need
  • A new Download section, where catalogs, product briefs, manuals, software, and application notes can be obtained
  • More witty prose from the heart of the Silicon Cornfield

We’ll soon launch a second web site, www.atterodesign.com, that will be solely for our design services activities.  I hope that the change will make help make both web sites easier to use and more valuable.

CobraNet System Limitations

August 12th, 2011 by Chris Lord

I was recently asked about the limits on a system that uses CobraNet. On the face of it, it seems a reasonably simple enough question.  However, the answer when we look at it, is not as simple as it seems……

To begin with, we have to differentiate between the capabilities of a device, its link to the network and the network as a whole.  The limits on each are not the same, and what applies to one may not apply to the others.

Taking the CobraNet devices themselves first, a device using a CobraNet CM-1 module, such as a typical rack-mount DSP, can do 32 channels in and 32 channels out.  Devices that use CobraNet silicon (like our own InBox and OutBox devices) are capable of 8-in and 8-out (some devices based on CobraNet silicon can do 16-in and 16-out like our GearBox).  Then there is Attero Tech’s own CobraNet LE-based devices that supports only 2 channels in and 2 channels out.  These are the number of channels that can be processed.  The devices may end up receiving more channels than that but can only use so many of them.

As far as bundles on a device, that depends on the device and its set-up.  Most support up to 4 bundle transmitters and 8 bundle receivers.  In addition, the Ethernet connection to a CobraNet device is a maximum of 100MBit/s.  This is limited by the Ethernet interface the CobraNet Devices use.  So, this is what the device limits are.  However, these limits do not necessarily apply to the rest of the system….

A single link of 100MBit/s Ethernet cable is capable of passing 64 channels of audio in each direction (a single channel is approximately 1.5Mbps).  However, that is at the standard transmission rate (48kHz), and sample size (20-bit), and latency (5.333ms).  Things start to get somewhat “muddy” at this point as all of the above settings in a CobraNet device can usually be changed.  When we start to change them, that then affects several things: the maximum number of channels in a bundle for example.  This is limited by the maximum Ethernet packet size, more data or samples per channel means less channels in a single packet.  An increase in the amount of data per channel also means the maximum number of channels across a single link of the CobraNet network also drops.

But what about the system as a whole?  Well, the above applies to each part of the system but as a whole, a completely new set of factors come into play.

For a start there are differing network speeds.  CobraNet devices are usually connected to a network switch of some kind and the link between the device and the network switch is always 100MBit/s.  However interconnections between the network switches on the network are not bound by the limitations the CobraNet devices are so these links can run significantly faster.  Let us say that we have two network switches, each connected to CobraNet devices.  Network switches these days are capable of at least 1Gbit/s (some can do 10Gb but they are very scarce and very, very expensive at the moment!!!).  The links from the network switches to the CobraNet devices will always be 100MBit/s as that is the maximum speed a CobraNet device can go.  These links, as we might expect, will have the bundle and channel restrictions for a single network link.  The CobraNet devices themselves also have their own limits dependant on the device.  However, if we were to connect the two network switches together, that connection could run at 1Gbit/s.  This is 10 times faster than links from the switch to the CobraNet devices.  This means they can carry 10 times more audio than the links from the network switch to the CobraNet devices.  This would mean potentially 10 times as many channels and 10 times as many bundles!!!

We then have to factor in the method audio passes round the network.  Yes, a typical CobraNet device only transmits 4 bundles and receives either 4 or 8 bundles but if all that audio is transmitted in unicast mode, the bundle will take the path of least resistance across the network.  Consequently, it will only pass over the segments of the network it needs to get from its source to its destination and thus, does not effect all links.  It’s efficient BUT as the name unicast suggests, the audio is only for a single recipient.

Multicast bundles, on the other hand, are a broadcast.  We can send audio to multiple recipients using multicast but it’s sent to all devices, irrespective of whether they need the audio or not.  Consequently, if we set a bundle in multicast mode, it will go down every link on the network and adds to the bandwidth on each of those links.  If each bundle has 8 channels, we only need 4 multicast bundles to ensure that each node is receiving its maximum allotment of 32 channels!!  This is one reason there is a limit of 4 multicast bundles on one system.

There is a third transmit mode called mutli-unicast but it follows the same rules as unicast except up to four devices can recieve the bundle.  Any more than four will cause the bundle to automatically switch to multicast mode, with all its implications.

So what about the maximum bundles on a network?  Well, the answer is it’s technically infinite.  For example, take a system with 100 CobraNet devices where each device transmits a unicast bundle to its neighbor.  Each node is only ever transmitting and receiving a single bundle, which is perfectly within a devices spec (even if it’s with 8 channels) and each link is only carrying 8 channels in any direction so we aren’t exceeding the maximum channel limits for a single link either.  Yet there are 100 bundles in the system.  Obviously this is a lot more than a single device can deal with, but perfectly acceptable as no one device is receiving more than one bundle!

In reality of course, a system would probably never be set-up like that, but it does show that device limits and network limits and certainly not the same thing!

- Chris Lord

Ethernet AVB, CobraNet, and Attero Tech

May 18th, 2011 by Mike Sims

If there’s one technology that been drawing a lot of attention lately in the commercial AV industry, it’s Ethernet AVB.  For anyone who’s been in a cave for the last two years or so, Ethernet AVB (for Audio Video Bridging) is an open protocol for delivery of low/fixed latency audio, video, and data using Fast Ethernet and Gig Ethernet.  Although the use of AVB requires AVB-enabled switches to properly manage media and data traffic, AVB promises to be a more general and IT-friendly solution to mixed media and data networks in the future.  In addition, since AVB can run on Gig networks, the maximum channel count in an AVB system is in the hundreds.  This is particularly critical for large venue systems (stadiums, arenas, campuses, etc.) that have been pushing the limits of available channel count on CobraNet systems for some time.

The AVB standard is being developed under the auspices of the IEEE, and comprises hardware timing requirements, media packet structure, and discovery/control/network management.  It will be a few months yet before IEEE 1722.1, which is the standard for discovery, control, and network management, is finalized.  Once that happens, manufacturers will be able to produce fully interoperable AVB gear.  Until then, every new AVB product will be “pre-standard”.  This means that AVB gear from different manufacturers may have some interoperability, but the level of interoperability will be unknown until tested.

So, that’s the background on AVB.  Here’s the path Attero Tech intends to follow.  We already have technology in our development lab to implement AVB endpoints, similar to the CobraNet endpoint products we now produce.  Since our products are often peripherals to larger systems, we’ll need some of the “big iron” manufacturers of networked AV gear to bring out fully standards compliant AVB DSP products to stimulate demand for our endpoint solutions.  Since fully compliant systems cannot now be designed in the absence of a completed 1722.1 spec, AVB enabled products from Attero Tech will likely show up in the 2012 to 2103 time frame.

Where does this leave CobraNet, you ask?  At Attero Tech, we believe CobraNet still has good life in it.  For starters, there’s a large installed base of CobraNet gear out there, with well over 50 manufacturers currently producing fully interoperable CobraNet gear.  CobraNet has over a decade of deployment experience behind it, so it’s a reliable, well proven technology.  All of this won’t disappear overnight.  AT will continue to support CobraNet, even as we add AVB products to our mix.  Indeed, we’ll be introducing a truly ground-breaking CobraNet networked AV product at InfoComm in Orlando (Booth 578) aimed specifically at network enabling smaller venues – at the right price point with the right feature set.  Check back here for more info closer to InfoComm, and be sure to stop by the booth and say hello!

-Mike Sims

Welcome to Attero Bytes Blog!

March 21st, 2011 by Mike Sims

Attero Tech makes some of the coolest networked AV gear anywhere, but we don’t always do the best job of telling people about it.  I and several other folks here at Attero Tech will be blogging regularly at this site so we’re not such a well-kept secret.  We’ll talk about current and new products, unique applications of our products, using AT products with other CobraNet  products from Biamp, BSS, Peavey, and others, industry topics that are important to all of us, and a variety of other things we hope will be useful.

I’d like to introduce the AT folks you’ll be hearing from going forward -

Chris Lord is Attero Tech’s Product Support Engineer, and is the cheerful British fellow you’ll talk to when you phone Attero Tech for technical support.  Chris gets raves from consultants and systems integrators for his thorough and sensible support.  Chris will be talking about installation tips and tricks and profiling some of the more interesting Attero Tech installations.

Josh Arnold is a Senior Hardware Engineer and Program Manager at Attero Tech.  More importantly, Josh has worked on almost every Attero Tech product since the very beginning over six years ago.  He’s a whiz on CobraNet “under the hood”, and will contribute pieces on some of the unique technical aspects of both AT’s products and CobraNet in general.

Tom Baker is Attero Tech’s Director of Manufacturing and Operations.  He’s responsible for being sure we always have product on the shelf, and that’s no small feat in today’s semiconductor marketplace.  With long lead times for virtually everything that goes into AT products, Tom still does an incredible job of keeping the cupboards stocked!  Tom will be writing about trends he sees that may affect our product lead times to help project planners to avoid those “Oh no, it’s a 12 week lead time and the install starts tomorrow” moments.

Geri Zickafoose handles Account Management at Attero Tech – officially.  Unofficially, she keeps just about everything humming smoothly around Attero Tech.  Whether working with our dealers to place and expedite orders, issuing RMAs, setting up new dealers, or being sure our reps have all the info they need, Geri does whatever it takes to provide top notch customer service.  Geri will talk about ways she can support all of our customers.

Mike Sims – that’s me – I’m the Director of Marketing and Sales here at Attero Tech.  I’m involved in all of the usual sales and marketing aspects like product literature production, trade shows, and advertising.  Even more fun part is talking to consultants and integrators about new product concepts, and planning the new product road map.  Many of our best product ideas come from the professionals with whom we work, and Attero Tech is still small enough to be pretty agile developing new products.  I’ll be blogging about possible products, new networking technologies, and anything else I can think of that might be useful.

Check this space often, and please give us your feedback.  We’d like to tailor this blog to be most useful to you, so feel free to tell us when we have it right, and also when we’re off track.

- Mike Sims